Enough with the yellow cake please ...

Did you even read my post?

First, MI6 has to date NEVER backed off their yellow cake report, I defy you to show me where they did. But lets say it was a complete fabrication or otherwise untrue - you're skipping right over the Telegraph article I produced and the fact that the entire free world DID AGREE that Saddam still maintained stockpiles of WMD's in the form of chemical and biological weapons. The nuclear program was up for debate and scrutiny but the UN identified in specific, in the text of the resolution, the type and amount of chemical and biological weapons stockpiles they needed to confirm were destroyed in order to fulfill the obligations of the resolution. Chem & Bio weapons ARE IN FACT WMD'S Titus. There are scores of reports from foreign news services, scores of statements from foreign governmental representatives, and our own (including John Kerry and Bill Clinton I might add) stating their belief that Saddam had these chem & bio weapons - the fact that their was a consensus among the signatories of the resolutions that Saddam had WMD's is a matter of the record! The disagreement rose over what to do about his continual violations i.e. not demonstrating he had destroyed them.

And you're wrong here:

My problem is that this is something ANY Middle Eastern nation with the capacity to refine oil would have, including Iran, Syria, Pakistan, Indonesia, Ceylon... in short, easily any Islamic state that might harbor terrorists or terrorist sympathisers has the same capacity...

Your inference that having chem & bio weapons made him no more dangerous then any of these other bad actors is patently false, and do you know who agrees with me ? Russia, China, France, the UK, and the USA via William Jefferson Clinton no less, - the Security Council. He was deemed less responsible and more likely to act with these weapons then any of these nations you named THAT'S WHY HE NECESSITATED THE RESOLUTIONS for crying out loud. 19 of them! His invasion of Kuwait and a myriad of other factors drove the Security Council to ultimately say that of all the bad actors on the world stage the world needed a resolution that demands he disarm less there be "serious consequences", which every one plainly knew meant military action. Given that this is ALL a matter of recorded history makes me astonished that you would even use it as a line of reasoning. The "yellow cake" was but one piece of a gigantic mosaic, the rest of which there was held a consensus of the signatories. The president and the resolution signatories could have used the phrase "Nuclear Weapons", and had they, and Bush used only that phrase in the lead up to war then you would have a point, but that is not the case at all. There was a consensus on WMD's via chem & bio weponry - he had not proven their destruction/dismantlement and the assumption was, in consensus form, that it was because he had done neither and in fact maintained them.

Yes, their was disagreement over yellow cake, I'll give you that, but that in no way disrupted the consensus that he had WMD's in the form of chem & bio weaponry. Do you think I made up the Telegraph report? If I go and pull the statements of the French, British, German, Australian, and Bill Clinton's repeated belief that he was maintaining them, and the actual text of the resolution which each signatory endorsed, do you think I will have made all of that up too? Please, the pre invasion consensus on WMD's via chem & bio weapons is a matter of fact. As is the consensus that Saddam's possession of them - and his refusal to allow in inspectors in violation of the resolution - was more of a threat to instability and world peace then was any of these other nations you named, thus the dozen & a half resolutions.


On Richter - the fact that he thinks calling him "Ryan" is an insult confirms to me that I have indeed made the correct ideological choices in life, PERIOD. And yes, calling him Ryan was funny. But lets bare in mind, outside of one or two incidences my arguments are well maintained, not born out of emotion, Olbermahn talking points and a live of Jimmy Carter .... oy vey.